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Why counselors make poor lovers

By Doug Shirley February 1, 2012

Counselors are good at relationships, or so they say. As folklore would have it, counselors are the “knowers” of all things relational and, therefore, can and should be “masters” when it comes to their own personal relationships. But is this really the case?

As a counselor, I thought I was good at relationship until I met and married my wife, who is also a counselor. Together, she and I quickly learned that, although we were each quite good at the craft of counseling, neither of us was all that good at establishing intimacy in our personal relationship. Our clinical training had taught us to rely on (if not hide behind) the role of counselor to find stability in the shifting sands of relationship building and maintenance. We had been taught to counsel rather than to relate. Ultimately, I would argue that this is true for far too many counselors.

Within our Western culture, taking on the post of counselor proffers one a certain amount of power, intended or unintended. One such mantle of power pertains to that counselor’s hermeneutic, or the lens through which that counselor sees the world. Just as lenses can come in various forms of tint, so too can hermeneutics be informed by a vast array of contributants. For many counselors, our entry into the field was informed by a quest to heal a past hurt. As counselors, we’ve entered a profession that gives us access to the hurts of others and allows (even requires) us to focus on or name the “stuff” of others. What is more, our profession can grant us a certain measure of (therapeutic) distance in relationships, wherein we can give without necessarily receiving. Add this all together and it is apparent why our relational sight can be encumbered by the tint of our profession-endorsed hermeneutics.

Can you relate? If so, I think you — like me and like many other counselors throughout the profession — are susceptible to a hermeneutic or relational stance that might be prohibitive to the intimacy we seek with the ones we love outside of our counseling offices. It is here that I see Western culture and its introjects informing the images of “counselor” that reside in each of us.

We as counselors end up holding the mixed bag of messages that our culture affords. We sit in and with dissonance. At times we feel great about ourselves and the work we do. At other times it seems as if we’re a receptacle for others to use for their refuse. And so it goes that we bring said dissonance into our personal relationships, trying to get a handle on who we are and how we are to operate in and through these relationships.

What a mess! We can leave our counseling offices and expect to find the same level of acknowledgment at home. When our partners or our children don’t hang on our every word like our clients seem to, we begin to think our family members are the ones with the problem (how could they be so ungrateful?). Or when our partners begin to question us, we may find ourselves prone to interpreting their apparently exhibited defense mechanisms, loading our relational cannons to shoot down the perceived threat that our relational partners represent to us. In this, we learn to use our skills to hide and defend.

Moreover, counselors can become quite sophisticated in terms of their defensive relational frameworks. Our professional training can keep us entrenched in seeing the patterns of thought and behaviors in others (“You seem to do this” or “You seem to think that”). Having been handed the constructs of transference and countertransference, it becomes hard not to see our partners as just one more person looking to work out their own unfinished business on us and our tabula-rasa backs. In other words, we can stop seeing our partners for who they are and begin responding to them and their behaviors as though they are clients coming to us for “care.”

I find it remarkable that although I’ve been practicing and teaching counseling for well over a decade, it is still surprisingly hard at times for me to be open with my wife about what I am feeling. As a counselor, I have become a wordsmith, and I have become very effective at hiding behind my words when I want to. I can add a proviso such as “It seems like …” or “It feels like …” to my sentences to lambast a loved one or to take inventory of them in a way that is ultimately uncaring.

In his text Nonviolent Communication, Marshall Rosenberg reminds us that a phrase such as “I feel like” doesn’t actually serve as an indicator for a feeling to follow. Such a phrase can be duplicitous in that feelings don’t need warm-up phrases. Hence, a statement made with an opening qualifier ends up being nothing more than an intrusion on my relational partner’s boundaries.

To this end, I would call myself a recovering co-dependent. In fact, many of the counselors I know would fit that category, regardless of whether they espouse such a descriptor. Our profession is one supposedly steeped with boundaries. If clients transgress and cross a boundary, they are called on it, whereas if counselors do so, it is often seen as therapeutic.

For instance, when was the last time you named something in your client? Did you do so with humility and a willingness to be wrong, or was your pronouncement emphatic and delivered with a triumphant edge? If the latter strikes a chord with you as it does for me, then I think we run the risk of taking this type of energy or engagement into relationship with those we love. With our partners, children, friends and other loved ones, we can make pronouncements that we think should garner applause and usher in healing and growth. And I’ll say again, when this doesn’t happen, we’ve been taught to view this dynamic as the other being full of resistance.

Ultimately, I’m trying to speak to my belief that we’ve been set up to fail relationally. So what is a counselor to do? I believe our skills and our attempts at containment, which can seem to get us somewhere in the office, are the very things that can dismantle our interactions with loved ones. We’ve been left with a tool kit of really expensive gadgets that oftentimes have little pertinence to our needed relational repairs. And here’s the kicker: We think we should know better.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had the following thoughts when interacting with someone in my personal life: “I should know how to handle this” or “I should know what to do here.” I mean, after all, I am a counselor, right? Aren’t counselors supposed to know how to handle complex relational moments?

I think Carl Rogers was on to something when he claimed it is the personal that is most general (à la On Becoming a Person). A dilemma I face as a person is that I don’t often grant myself the luxury of being just that — a person. No, I think because of the work that I do or the degrees on my wall that I should have it all figured out and should offer pristine love and encouragement to all who come in contact with me. When I am unable to fit this bill, I take it out on myself and cower in shame. I choose to disengage rather than staying present in the moment. I retreat, look for cover and hope for a moment wherein I can get back on solid ground.

A helpful reminder: Maybe there is no such thing as solid ground in relationship. Maybe that’s the point of relationship. You’ve probably heard it said that someone can have enough information about something to be dangerous. I think this is true for many counselors and therapists in their personal relationships. We’ve been given diagnostic and interpretive categories, therapeutic skills to hone and a professional frame in which to hold it all. When push comes to shove, however, very little of this plays outside of the counseling office. Outside of my office, I am faced with the same personal struggles that my clients face: to engage openly and honestly with the people I love.

So what’s the take-home message here? Don’t assume your clinical training will serve as an asset in your personal relationships. In fact, anticipate that it might act as a liability at points. Listen to yourself talk, and allow your use of language to inform you of your more deep-seated, hermeneutical leanings. Practice receiving care from others, especially from those who know and love you best. Ask for feedback; our places of work should not be the only avenues by which we engage in “performance review” processes. Seek out entitlement and/or power-laden energies in the ways you carry yourself both personally and professionally, and allow that voice of entitlement lodged within or the power plays you display to point you toward unmet needs of your own that are very much worth stewarding.

And above all, let’s stop taking ourselves so seriously. If we render ourselves “knowers” of the human condition who “should” know what to do, say, think or feel when it comes to our personal relationships, I believe we exponentiate the likelihood that we will promulgate loneliness in those relationships. Let’s allow ourselves to be who we are and where we are and be willing to chuckle at our foibles, our failures and our good-intentioned but ill-advised attempts to get our own needs met. In so doing, we might just become better lovers.



Related reading: “Counselors as human beings, not superheroes

A counseling license doesn’t inoculate practitioners against wrestling with “what if” thinking, struggling with problems in their home life and personal relationships, or experiencing some of the same hardships that they help clients walk through.


Doug Shirley is a practicing counselor and an assistant professor of counseling at The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology. Contact him at



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  1. Terry

    So, so well said. This is quite insightful and accurate. Thanks, Doug, for shedding light on this important topic.

  2. Rachel

    I agree completely. This has been an ongoing theme in my personal relationships since my junior year of undergrad (about 4 years ago). I feel I am in a constant state of “counselor mode” limbo, and many times I feel “pressured” to be in this “mode. This becomes so debilitating. We can’t be in “counselor mode” on a consistent basis, for our own sake and the sake of others. We deserve to be ourselves with no question. We need to! This is and will continue to be a mindful struggle. Thank you for helping me no feel so alone on this, Doug!

  3. Suzette

    This is indeed applicable to all of us in the field, especially those who work with Trauma, sexual assault and abuse victims, where the vicarious experience is inevitable. I can personally attest to the damaging effect on perceptions around sex, intimacy, Men….
    Would like to see you expound on this insightful and painfully neccessary personal/professional “share.” Perhaps a book in and of itself? This needs to be integrated in to CACREP standards and part of ongoing annual Ethics CEU requirements. Your suggestions are appreciated, I’d just like to see specific examples and suggested steps for better understanding and application.

    -What are examples of , and what steps can we take to thwart the “debilitating” effects, the dissonance, or be ok to, as Rachel said; “be ourselves with no question.” Especially when “we’ve been set up to fail relationally.”
    -Do you have specific examples of issues, such as the one you mentioned at the end; “good-intentioned but ill-advised attempts to get our own needs met.”
    -What specific examples can you talk about that show what we can do to constructively recognize and navigate the “defensive relational frameworks,” or the “constructs of transference and counter transference” in our
    persdonal life?
    -What do we do when not only have we gotten in to the pattern of seeing “our partners as just one more person looking to work out their own unfinished business on us,” or, worse, beyond “codependent,” our actions catalyze them to assume the role and pattern of “responding” “as clients? Resistance and all.
    -What things have you specifically done to address this and have they been effective?

  4. Simcha

    Although Doug offers some valuable “take-home messages” concerning counselors’ struggles with their own intimate relationships, he miss an important one: engaging in our own personal therapy (something I notice many graduate programs foolishly do not require during one’s training). Like our clients, most of us need objective guidance in learning to identify, understand and regulate our own sensitivities, reactivities and triggers. Engaging in our OWN self-work will help us become both better partners and better therapists.

  5. Taissia

    Excellent points Simcha. Not only does the content of this article belong in Doug’s private couple’s therapy sessions, but it provides very poor role-model for future counselors (Doug’s students) normalizing such public self-disclosure of personal issues. Moreover, it possibly shows Doug’s counseling clients that he’s an “impaired” professional who can’t take care of his own relationship and therefore, some may wonder: how he will help them in theirs? Appropriate self-care is an ethical responsibility of each counselor and this saddens me to see that someone who is this far ahead in his career still has this kind of naïveté, for example, blaming his “Western” upbringing and expecting that his counseling degrees will help him to be an expert in his own personal problems. I find the article construct lacking for someone who has so much education, primarily, because there are too many points and no definitions of terms used, rampant speculations, and very limited references. It hard to believe that majority of counselors make poor “lovers” and have problems in their personal relationships but this could be a good research topic, for sure.

  6. Melissa Martin

    Very insightful article based on reality!

    What is one of the noteworthy pearls of wisdom from me to you about life’s dance as an individual? Relationship. That’s right. We are all connected via relationship. Life is a continuous ballet of relationship-building with others; unbroken and broken; repaired or ended. We change partners and step on toes as we create our own music or follow the music of others. Sometimes we choose our partners and sometimes are partners are chosen for us. We both lead and follow. We rumba with allies and enemies. Daily interactions fill our moments with substance and we learn, but only if we are listening and tuning out the hustle and bustle and disruptive static in our brain. Albeit, we dance alone in our own skin, but experiencing relationship gives meaning to the dance.

    The dancer and dancing,
    The counselor and counseling,
    The experiencer and experiencing are but one.
    –Melissa Martin, Counselor

    1. Jesse Middleton

      I am a new husband of a counselor. And I have been seeking for answers on why my wife has been struggling at being my lover. And we’ve been on a very rocky foundation. It’s always me with the issue but she never sees her errors. Almost to a point to where I find myself taking a ton of criticism for just trying to navigate through the lack of compassion and lack of authentic two way communication.
      The way that your articulated the relationships as being a dance really brought it home for me. So much so, that I took notes! This article overall is the beginning stages of my healing process because prior to knowing this information I’ve experienced a great deal of hurt.
      So thank you !

  7. Ania

    Thanks for sharing this. Some very refreshing insights here. I can relate to noticing how easily the shadow of perfectionism and fear of vulnerability can hide inside the “therapist stance”. We’re taught to model some patriarchal ideal of the distant expert psychoanalyst. This unequal power dynamic always felt off to me, like it was infantilizing the client. Every relationship is a system and if you have a system where one person has so much power, that doesn’t leave a lot of empowerment for the other to step into. This is a big reason I left therapy years ago and today work more within a depth coaching model. It feels clean and clear to be a human with another human and practice faith that my clients are capable of living fully empowered lives. Key differences I’ve noticed from when I worked as a therapist is that now I am much more transparent and there is more of a real relationship and genuine appreciation and love with my clients, as I am not hiding behind a professional mask, and allowing my vulnerability to open my heart more. And my clients heal traumas and feel better about 10x faster than therapy!

  8. Matt_K

    Hi Doug,
    One of your students, here. Being I am still learning about the nuts and bolts of psychotherapy, I don’t have an ounce of identification with your argument from a clinician’s perspective. However, words cannot express how grateful I am for the long-hauled and painful, yet immeasurably beneficial psychotherapeutic journey my wife started on a few years ago. I resinated a bit with the words you put to how shame could surface in the context of personal relationships. I admire your genuineness and humility to share this type of material. I can see your face as if you were teaching this in class! Oh wait . . . you did.
    As I read through your article two things came to mind that could be understood through a lens of shame: 1) In the end of the film, Avatar, when the home base unit pulls the plug on Jake as he is about to be destroyed by incoming insurgents, Neytiri hops on top of his body and gives an unforgettable hiss of protection; and 2) I have found deep meaning in the Biblical phrase, “. . . we are more than conquerors . . .,” although taken slightly out of context. When I am able to let my spouse “hiss” over me, name her perception of my underlying sense of shame, and then speak truth, our marriage is a beautiful thing. In essence, when allowed, we get to be “conquerors” for one another! On the other hand, not so much. Thanks for giving us a plug to your article in class!

    See you soon.

  9. Billy

    This article was helpful to me and I have been looking for information on the impact being a counselor has on one’s relationships. If anyone can cite other articles in this vein, I’d appreciate hearing about them. I tried several different searches on the web and all the articles that showed up but this one were about how therapists/counselors work to solve relationship issues for their clients. Seems like a real blind spot.


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